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type 26 as replacement for LCS?

It seems no company submitted type 26 derivative as LCS alternative... is the Navy bent on a Standard missile capability? To me the Type 26 is a better choice with more advanced design, ASW emphasis,...

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anotherdemon wrote:I'm just thinking: Does the LCS and the proposed SSC actually need local area defense, i.e., ESSM. What's the point? RAM can counter sea skimmers and low flying aircraft. 57mm can...

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Re: type 26 as replacement for LCS?

You can keep the 30mm cannons if they don't take much of anything away from ASW/minesweeping. It does have enough for boghammers with just the 57mm gun + helos with Hellfire, the latter being what...

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Re: type 26 as replacement for LCS?

Thing with LCS at range shooting at boghammers - bigger ship=better gun platform. The 30mm mounts are stabilised in any event so I'd definitely expect the LCS to get in hits at ranges well beyond...

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Re: type 26 as replacement for LCS?

So long as it's quite clear that they are targets. IMO this is the biggest problem with this kind of boat, pretty much anything can kill them once identified as a threat. Try not to only imagins a...

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Re: type 26 as replacement for LCS?

ChrisPat wrote:So long as it's quite clear that they are targets. IMO this is the biggest problem with this kind of boat, pretty much anything can kill them once identified as a threat. Try not to...

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Re: type 26 as replacement for LCS?

Fine if the mission allows it, otherwise a gang of yahoos on wet bikes and RIBs just drove a frigate / destroyer / MCM / whatever LCS ends up being called away from its task. My main point is that the...

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Re: type 26 as replacement for LCS?

ChrisPat wrote:Fine if the mission allows it, otherwise a gang of yahoos on wet bikes and RIBs just drove a frigate / destroyer / MCM / whatever LCS ends up being called away from its task. My main...

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Re: type 26 as replacement for LCS?

Hi,I believe that this is an argument that can be looked at many ways.  A flip side of some of the issues noted above could likely be that when performing a "blockade", "anti-piracy", "drug...

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Re: type 26 as replacement for LCS?

FCNoVA wrote:Hi,I believe that this is an argument that can be looked at many ways.  A flip side of some of the issues noted above could likely be that when performing a "blockade", "anti-piracy",...

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Re: type 26 as replacement for LCS?

Hi,If the situation would allow you to stand off at a distance that would definitely seem to be the desired solution.  But I suspect that this would not necessarily always be a possible solution....

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Re: type 26 as replacement for LCS?

FCNoVA wrote:Hi,If the situation would allow you to stand off at a distance that would definitely seem to be the desired solution.  But I suspect that this would not necessarily always be a possible...

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Re: type 26 as replacement for LCS?

Hi,To me I think part of the issue may be that it appears that the US Navy initially decided to develop a single type of vessel to fulfill many roles without appearing to have done a proper 'analyses...

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Re: type 26 as replacement for LCS?

FCNoVA wrote:Hi,To me I think part of the issue may be that it appears that the US Navy initially decided to develop a single type of vessel to fulfill many roles without appearing to have done a...

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Re: type 26 as replacement for LCS?

My opinion is that because the US military enjoys being overwhelmingly superior to any other armed force, it allowed itself the luxury of time and expense to experiment with what will be their...

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Re: type 26 as replacement for LCS?

LCS somewhat makes sense as a cool colonial police cruiser that can scoot around weakly or undefended third world coasts. The problem is that with the US about to be eclipsed economically by a peer...

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Re: type 26 as replacement for LCS?

Could I also point out that the Mighty US Navy as managed to deal with Bog hammers and the like quite successfully for many years, as simple remote control small calibre canon's in the 25 to 35mm...

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skipper101 wrote:... Can we please stop arguing over bog hammers and mystical super midget submarines? Regardless of what ever constabulary role the USN might require of it Maritime War Fighting...

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Re: type 26 as replacement for LCS?

But they are not difficult to deal with. just shoot them with small caliber canon.

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Re: type 26 as replacement for LCS?

skipper101 wrote:But they are not difficult to deal with. just shoot them with small caliber canon.Very true.  A WWII era, pintle mounted weapon would probably be adequate.

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Re: type 26 as replacement for LCS?

But as with WWII light AA some stabilisation and director control will greatly improve matters and enable accurate engagement at longer range. As will air bursting munitions. Hence the stabilised USN...

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